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Jul. 11, 1994: Business:The Barry and Larry Show
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TIME--The Weekly Newsmagazine--1994
Jul. 11, 1994 From Russia, With Venom
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<source>Time Magazine</source>
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BUSINESS, Page 48
The Barry and Larry Show
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<p> Tisch's CBS plans a merger with Diller's QVC, and everybody's
happy--especially the other media giants that may seize the
chance to bid for the network
</p>
<p>By Richard Corliss--Reported by Massimo Calabresi and Thomas McCarroll/New York
and Jeffrey Ressner/Los Angeles
</p>
<p> At a Manhattan dinner party three weeks ago, Barry Diller was
constantly asked what he was going to do next. The flinty mogul,
whose QVC cable network had lost an expensive bid to buy Paramount
Communications, would say only, "I'm onto something." Late in
the evening, he stood at the door chatting with Don Hewitt,
executive producer of CBS's 60 Minutes, and Hewitt's wife, TV
newswoman Marilyn Berger. "Barry," Berger said nonchalantly,
"you really should come around the show more often." Diller,
twinkling and almost winking, replied, "Oh, I'll be around."
</p>
<p> Around? Diller is never just around. And he is always onto something--usually on top. In the '70s he successfully ran Paramount's
empire of movies. In the '80s, at Fox, he achieved the impossible:
launching a fourth network and making it flower. In 1992 he
became a partner in the home-shopping channel QVC, a roadside
fruit stand on the new information superhighway. Instead of
instantly upgrading the network's programming, Diller used QVC
as a piggy bank for the hostile raid on Paramount. For once,
he was vanquished, by Viacom Inc., and when the battle was over
Diller issued this statement, as prophetic as it was sardonic:
"They won. We lost. Next."
</p>
<p> Next, it turns out, was CBS. Last week Diller and CBS chairman
Laurence Tisch announced that the Eye network would acquire
QVC. CBS shareholders would own about 53% of the company, QVC
shareholders the rest. If the deal goes through, Tisch will
be chairman of the merged companies, and Diller will be president,
CEO and chairman of the executive committee. QVC will designate
five of the 12 members of the board of directors, including
Diller. Tisch will own about 10% of the combined company (through
his family-held company, Loews Corp., he owns 20% of the current
CBS), but, he declared, "Barry will be the boss."
</p>
<p> Wall Street wasn't sure who would be boss, but it responded
emphatically. The day the merger was announced, the stock of
both CBS and QVC rocketed 19%. It pumped up a QVC stock value
that had been cut sharply after the Paramount sortie. And it
brought Tisch's company almost back to its May level, before
CBS got a black eye by losing eight of its affiliate stations
to Fox. CBS had also suffered wounds from an earlier affiliate
raid by Rupert Murdoch, owner of the News Corp. (which includes
the Fox network), and Revlon magnate Ronald Perelman. "CBS had
to do something to break out of the doldrums," says Christopher
Dixon, media analyst with PaineWebber. "With this move they
enter the modern age--albeit laughing, kicking, struggling
and crying. They are now where they need to be to be able to
compete in the rapidly developing broadcast world of the '90s."
</p>
<p> Media mavens were quick to applaud the mix of CBS and the tough,
widely respected Diller. "He's probably the one executive,"
says analyst Larry Gerbrandt of Paul Kagan Associates, "that
just about everybody in the industry would salute." Diller,
a high-profile schmoozer to whom networking is both a pleasure
and a job description, was quickly at ease in the company he
hopes will be his big new home. The day the deal was announced,
he called Evening News co-anchor Dan Rather for a chat and was
escorted around the network's New York City broadcast center
on 57th Street by Howard Stringer, CBS's Broadcast Group president.
Tisch said Stringer would stay on in the new regime. And Diller,
who has often castigated the bigger networks as boring and bloated,
promised that there would be no ticker-tape parade of pink slips.
</p>
<p> But before Diller can make policy, he must make the deal. He
must help sell it to the boards and shareholders of both companies,
and help keep it from enticing other companies avid for a big
buy. Diller may even have to convince himself that Tisch--a proud man, stung by accusations that he is a timid blunderer
in the high-speed world of entertainment commerce--is not
using the Diller name to entice a corporate behemoth with a
fatter wallet.
</p>
<p> If the CBS-QVC merger were a TV series, then everything up to
now would be just the pilot. Consider the potential plot twists.
For a start, the CBS and QVC boards do not convene (separately)
to discuss the merger until July 13. "It's not like the board
is coming in tomorrow ratifying to do it," says a TV industry
executive who is close to both Diller and Tisch. "It's not coming
in for another 10 days! You got the July Fourth weekend--what
do you think is going to happen over that time? A lot of meetings.
You can name 10 possible suitors for CBS: all the studios that
could afford to pick up a 5 or 6 billion dollar tab, telephone
companies, how many is that right there?"
</p>
<p> Tisch insists that "this company will not be shopped. This deal
will not be shopped. We are not selling. We are simply merging
two companies, and it's a genuine merger." But many on Wall
Street do not believe him. "CBS is clearly in play," says Bruce
Thorp, an analyst for PNC Bank. "This deal implies that it's
open to all comers." Some analysts insist that CBS is worth
$6.4 billion, or $400 a share--nearly $100 more than last
week's closing price. CBS must look mighty fetching to companies
(like Disney and other studios) with an itch for a takeover
and the stamina to endure the inevitable court battles and regulatory
disputes. Billionaire oilman Marvin Davis, said to be interested
in acquiring NBC, could find a CBS deal seductive, though Tisch
last week reportedly said he would never sell his stock to Davis.
</p>
<p> If the deal does hold, most industry analysts see it as a smart
move toward the future by CBS, a conservative outfit with a
maturing lineup of shows in that old fogey of the video market,
network television. "Diller will create synergy," says Bishop
Cheen, a Kagan analyst, "by wearing three hats. Number one,
the network hat, and there's he's a Hall of Famer. Two, the
programming hat: he will create good and cheap programming.
And third, merchandiser--a hat that has never been worn at
CBS with any great authority. He'll merge two favorite American
pastimes: shopping and watching TV."
</p>
<p> The favorite pastime on Wall Street is watching megamergers
come together--and then, sometimes, picking them apart. In
this one, the prime mover was Daniel R. Tisch, second son of
Larry Tisch and general partner of the risk and arbitrage investment
firm Mentor Partners. Says Danny, who encouraged Tisch to buy
CBS stock in 1985: "My father has four very smart sons--or
three very smart sons and myself--and my basic business is
trading in securities and investing in securities and takeovers
and in mergers and acquisitions. So I do have a fairly good
idea of any of the issues that might arise in any merger. And
I guess he just opted at this point to turn to me for some advice."
</p>
<p> In February, as Diller's Paramount proposal waxed, waned and
went under, Daniel Tisch first broached the CBS-QVC deal to
takeover lawyer Martin Lipton, one of whose clients was Diller.
The chat with Lipton, says Danny Tisch, "wasn't done with Larry
Tisch's okaying or not okaying. It was just saying, gee, if
the Paramount-QVC transaction looks good, think about what a
CBS-QVC fit would look like. Lots of sex appeal in it."
</p>
<p> In late May, Fox sideswiped CBS, stealing eight affiliates to
bolster its station roster. For Larry Tisch, 71, this was a
humbling, sapping loss. After huddling with family members,
he put out the word that he was ready to consider any good offer
seriously. In marched Diller, 52 and still hungry.
</p>
<p> According to several sources, QVC's subsequent offer included
a cash buyout of CBS, a move CBS declined. Then Diller, with
Lipton and Herbert Allen of Allen & Co., whom Danny Tisch calls
"the real financial architects of this transaction," rejiggered
the proposal as a merger between equal parties. "Around June
10," recalls Danny, "we sat down--my father, my brother Jimmy,
who is executive vice president at Loews, and I--with Marty
Lipton. We didn't really come up with any negatives."
</p>
<p> In the past year, the network that Larry Tisch is credited with
turning around has experienced positives and negatives in equal
measure. CBS had become the first network to lead the ratings
in daytime (with hot soap operas like The Young and the Restless),
prime time (with aging but still potent shows like 60 Minutes
and Murphy Brown) and late night (with the boffo debut of David
Letterman). But its triumphs on the air were clouded by fiascos
in the conference rooms. Losing the affiliates to Fox was only
part of it. The Eye web had fumbled its rights to N.F.L. games,
a CBS staple since 1956, and allowed Fox to pick them up. CBS
also looked inept when, unlike ABC, NBC and Fox, it did not
demand that cable systems commit to accept some jerry-built
CBS cable channel in return for retransmission rights to the
network's programming. "CBS could have gotten a cable channel
for almost nothing," says the TV-industry executive. "They would
just have to have invested some start-up money. But to Tisch
it didn't mean anything because he doesn't feel it in his gut,
like a Murdoch or a Diller does. He walked away from every deal
he was presented! He has no vision about what the mass-media
business is going to be, no feeling for where the future is."
</p>
<p> Two of CBS's largest institutional investors expressed unhappiness
over these events. They saw Tisch as a shopkeeper and not the
right kind of dreamer. "It's that vision thing," says Harold
Vogel of Merrill Lynch. "His idea of a vision is another year
of winning the ratings war, and that's it. That's not the way
you grow a network." The only thing that was growing at this
network was the list of jokes about it. Rush Limbaugh recently
referred to "the three major networks--four, if you count
CBS."
</p>
<p> You would have to count a lot higher before you got to QVC.
It is one of cable's quieter moneymakers: lots of cash, little
cachet. In Diller's first year at QVC, its revenues rose 14%.
John Malone, the zillionaire head of Tele-Communications, Inc.,
had lured Diller to the home-shopping network at the end of
1992, shortly after he left Fox. Perhaps there had been a dispute
with Murdoch, his boss, over a Diller request for equity in
the company; perhaps he was just tired, as he said, of working
for other people.
</p>
<p> The son of a Beverly Hills builder, Diller joined ABC in 1966.
This was a young man in a hurry. Diller was soon developing
two important formats: the mini-series (QB VII) and the made-for-TV
movie (such as Duel, Steven Spielberg's debut feature). In 1974
he moved to Paramount, where he, Michael Eisner, Jeffrey Katzenberg,
Frank Mancuso and some other sharp people spurred a renaissance
of the studio, with such hits as Saturday Night Fever, Grease,
Raiders of the Lost Ark, Flashdance and Terms of Endearment.
</p>
<p> In 1984 Diller tangled with Martin Davis, chairman of Gulf &
Western, which owned Paramount, and left the studio to become
chairman of Fox. (The same year, Eisner and Katzenberg went
to Disney; Mancuso stayed to run Paramount.) Murdoch, who bought
the studio a year later, gave Diller the mandate to create a
fourth prime-time network. That he did, with his patented management
style: creative listening. "What Barry does," says Garth Ancier,
Fox's TV programming chief under Diller, "is assemble teams
of people and then bring them into the room to debate different
ideas. He obviously ran the whole thing, but he really acts
as an editor. And he's a very good editor."
</p>
<p> Some would say he was also a very good predator. Stories of
Diller's temper and hauteur still raise hackles around many
a Hollywood campfire. It's said that Diller, furious at Fox
programmer Stephen Chao, threw a videotape past Chao, making
a dent in the wall; Chao framed the dent. Thus does Diller,
whose stare can go through you like a power drill, inspire passions
and animosities. Says a studio executive: "People who have worked
for Barry and then escaped have a secret handshake. They consider
themselves lucky survivors, like the Schindler Jews."
</p>
<p> That harsh phrase has been used before about Diller, and all
it does is add the glamour of menace to his mystique. No question
that this hard-driving entrepreneur has an intimidating manner
and visage ("He looks like his head is meant only to cover his
brain," says one former Fox executive). But he wouldn't have
succeeded just by being a slick shark among the entertainment
industry's countless barracudas. He made his reputation by making
movies and TV shows, by making things happen, by making money
for men with more money.
</p>
<p> But after moving from broadcast TV to cable, Diller never quite
answered one question posed by the ordinary viewers: Can you
turn QVC's programming into something approaching mainstream
entertainment? After two years--about the time it took for
Diller to start up Fox's first night of network programming--QVC was still an electronic flea market, selling flashy bracelets
one moment and beanbag chairs the next. Clearly, most of Diller's
creative energies were directed elsewhere. "When Barry went
to QVC," says a business colleague, "he saw this mainly as the
platform to do a big, transforming acquisition."
</p>
<p> Now Diller is close to it, and that could create some rancor
among QVC shareholders. As the business colleague notes, "They
could say, `Hey, you worked on this for a year and a half, and
all you did was get me five bucks over what it was worth when
you came in, and this half of what it was worth a year ago.'"
</p>
<p> Whatever the obstacles, the CBS-QVC merger could be a quick,
happy fix for two media barons under pressure. Diller gets to
make a network grow into a giant of cable, broadcasting and
only he knows what else (theatrical movies? video games? TV
serials for home shoppers?). And CBS gets Diller. In essence,
to secure an heir, Tisch bought a company. And a legacy. "Larry
gets to walk out," says the TV-industry executive, "not as a
failure, but as someone who took the company and turned it around.
Now he's a winner: he's probably $400 million ahead of his original
investment, and he's still got 10% of the new entity." Merril
Lynch's Vogel sees the merger as "Tisch's exit strategy. He
was having a problem chasing out. This is one way of solving
that problem."
</p>
<p> On its face, at least, the merger solves so many problems. Says
the TV exec: "Here you put together two companies that seemingly
were in trouble. QVC is basically a single great executive with
an asset that has no future. CBS is a great asset with a great
future but an executive that has no vision. So it was a perfect
marriage."
</p>
<p> A perfect marriage it may be, but the wedding day is far off,
and rival swains are surely on the prowl. Right now CBS looks
like a pretty blond in a lowcut dress who goes to a singles
bar to announce her engagement. The leaking of the news so far
in advance of the board meeting suggests at least that Tisch
intends to consider other offers, which would further inflate
the stock. One CBS executive admitted that Tisch went public
with the merger news because "he fervently believes in doing
a deal that makes the best sense for the shareholder. If the
shareholders end up determining that there's a better deal,
then..." Then the shareholders make a bundle. And who is
CBS's largest shareholder? Larry Tisch.
</p>
<p> To those with a taste for both melodrama and irony, it would
be appealing if Tisch--widely considered the duller of the
two men--were cunning enough to use Diller as bait for an
even more robust suitor. Why, it would be the stuff of network
television. Greed! Lust! Power! Infighting! Backbiting! The
Barry and Larry Show, with a few mystery guest stars, could
be CBS's hottest program this summer.
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